1. J-Zone’s Tim Dog Appreciation Post.

    Tim Dog

    Continued from previous page.


    #timdogquotables “She wanted me to pee in her face (So what did you do?) I pissed in her face”
    From “Secret Fantasies”. Bladder relief. It’s just that simple. Really.

    #timdogquotables “Imma wax his ass, Imma tax his ass, Imma fax his ass, and cold lax his ass”
    From “You Ain’t Shit”. The said ass is in a heap of trouble.

    #timdogquotables “Wax that ass Imma wax that ass. Wax that ass Imma wax that ass. Wax that ass Imma wax that ass Ill wax anybody”
    From “I’ll Wax Anybody”. Guard your ass, it might get waxed.

    #timdogquotables “Imma blast that nigga, Imma shoot that nigga, Imma smoke that nigga, Imma do that nigga”
    From “Bronx Nigga”. I’m noticing a pattern here – niggas and asses meet their fates on Tim Dog records.

    #timdogquotables “All you muthafuckas walkin around, wearing polka dots, your shit is wack, I’ll tell you to your face!”
    From “I Ain’t Havin’ It”. Looking at rap today, Kwamé was eons ahead of his time as well. But back then, the dotted one was in the cross-hairs of Mr. Dog.

    #timdogquotables “Rap is nothing you can put in a movie with a bunch of turtles!”
    From “I Ain’t Havin’ It”. I always thought Donatello was a bitch ass nigga.

    #timdogquotables “Rappers like Kid-N-Play, rappers like Kwamé, rappers like Young MC with nothin to say.”
    From “You Ain’t Shit”. The “who do you think he was dissing?” debate never came up with Tim Dog. Ever.

    #timdogquotables “Take a nigga like MC Hammer. A wack ass rapper, but a dope ass dancer.”
    From “You Ain’t Shit”. Even hard rappers appreciated dancers back then.

    #timdogquotables “Im just a myth/To riff/The gift/The if/The fifth/The shift/The spliff is in control… (etc.) WHEW & Im still too great”
    From “Fuck Compton”. Huh? I guess this could be a facsimile of an inebriated Big Daddy Kane freestyle, which is a good thing.

    #timdogquotables “The short one, you know the one with the fat ass? Oops! They all have a fat ass”
    From “Secret Fantasies”. My observations exactly; En Vogue gets dicked down backstage on Soul Train.

    #timdogquotables “Cause I’m Tim Dog babybaby Tim Dog babybaby Tim Dog babybaby Tim Dog babybaby Tim Dog babybaby Tim Dog! I’m Tim Dog!”
    From “Dog’s Gonna Getcha”. It is Tim Dog. It really is.

    #timdogquotables “Dropped the bitch at the train, threw her a token, said forget my name.”
    From “Bronx Nigga”. Metrocards for the classy broads; Tokens for the hoodrats.

    #timdogquotables “Aaarrggh! I cant believe how dope I am, Im the mufuckin man, slappin MCs with 1 hand. Dont cry ya little bitch! Be a man!”
    From “Dog’s Gonna Getcha”. Real men don’t cry. Especially after being slapped with one hand.

    #timdogquotables “And I stoled ya muthafuckin beat and made it better, to show the whole world that yall aint nuthin but a buncha pussies!”
    From “Intro”. I told my ninth grade English teacher that “stoled” was a real word. He didn’t believe me.

    #timdogquotables “Here comes a big nigga named Bruce. Oh shit. What am I to do?”
    From “Goin Wild In The Penile”. For all with Twitter access in a holding cell.

    Tim’s sophomore effort, Do or Die, also featured some Twitter-friendly lines, but many of them entered the “double whoa” zone. Example:

    #timdogquotables “Because I’ll fuck you in the ass til its covered with shit. Yea boy Im a freak. If we was up north you be callin me big Zeke”
    From “I Don’t Give a Fuck”. Ummmmmmmm… yeah.

    I could delve into the never-ending replay value of the skits, but I did that last year (click here).

    In summation, Penicillin On Wax is just as entertaining as it was 20 years ago. Considering that NYC became Disney World in the interim, the album’s spot in New York rap history is cemented firmly and its content is irreplaceable. It was also light years ahead of its time – personality taking the front seat over actual lyrical skill was a concept lost around these parts in 1991. Salute.

    Bonus Tweet:

    #timdogquotables “She took it in the butt hole; she took it quite well.”
    From “Secret Fantasies”. Is that a fact?


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    • http://www.facebook.com/BenTheGloriousBastard Ben TGB

      It was a time when there was no metrosexual movement…

    • http://twitter diggedy daz aka pathh88

      Great piece J Zone, def an overlooked lp, still bump it on the regular…

    • The Brown Hr0nyt

      That’s right, Ben TGB, just brothers on the DL like Tim Dog.

    • Tyrone Fuller

      i don’t know who’s greater: Tim Dog of J Zone! although TD has waaaay more butt-centric rhymes than Zone. PS: FUCK a jay Z! Jaz-O all the time! (don’t hate on my opinion)

    • tommee

      thanks for that, Zone… “Dogs Gonna Getcha” was always my favorite. “Be a man!”

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      I also think the Big Tyme album he did with Kool Keith needs its own post. A lot of strange strange shit on there. One thing about the whole Ultra crew, they didn’t give a fuck… and that whole aesthetic birthed a lot of the craziness we see today. Only now, the shit is a lot more widespread.

    • Jealousofmyrezn

      Another awesome blog entry/classic quotes! Thanks J-Zone!

    • http://phatfriend.wordpress.com/ Blockhead

      Fantastic. The whole “Personality” rap really nailed something I’ve been trying to vocalize for years but couldn’t find the right word. Well done….and agreed that “Dog’s gonna gethca” may be one of the greatest songs ever.

    • backnforth

      Talkin about how ridiculous TIM DOG was???

      You guys need to listen to this RIGHT NOW!!!
      And prepare to laugh for the entire duration…

      http://therealfrequency.podbus.com/blog/2009/08/19/differently-still-guy-episode-35/

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      Blockhead…exactly. Ultra and Tim Dog embraced the “personality” style at a time when it was all about being super-lyrical in New York. Kool Keith had a lot of hidden meaning shit lyrically, but the Ultra camp was primarily about entertainment. Even that Tyler the Creator “Yonkers” video has some “Poppa Large” influence. Nobody in ’92 did videos rapping in a fuckin straight jacket. Years later, you’d have Kanye, Dipset, etc. – they focused more on entertainment value than being lyrically precise. Penicillin on Wax is more relevant today than it was then, at least aesthetically.

    • http://www.facebook.com/BenTheGloriousBastard Ben TGB

      The Brown Hr0nyt> I said metro not homo

    • jayz sucks cock

      I disagree zone when you keep saying the album was non lyrical. it was lyrical enough. I dont think bringing up tim dog was not lyrical 20 times makes this a better album. it was a great album and tim dog did good enough. the majority of the album was a diss album so there was a limit.

    • GoodWilHustlin’

      Shit, Tim Dog just sounded vicious at all times. Homeboy must’ve had lozenges on deck at all times during the recording of this album. He growls and yells so damn much, but again, that all fit into the Tim Dog personality. Him kickin’ it with Keith worked wonders. On that note, someone should post a Kool Keith Appreciation, dude had personas for days. I dunno if you guys remember an Ego Trip Show on MTV a couple years back where he smelled strippers while blindfolded, then managed to figure out which ethnicity they were by their touch and smell.

      PLUS, peep this interview for some real talk by Black Elvis…

      http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1229/title.kool-keith-chromosomal-beatdown

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      I hear you. Keith is in a class all by himself. Inspired a lot of shit that goes on today (from an eccentricity standpoint) and never got a lot of credit. Not too many rappers would talk about jerkin off on records in the 90s. I’m working on a video tribute to Penicillin on Wax as well.

    • Yeedo

      i blogged about this too http://bucketheadrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/dog-from-bronx.html

      tim dog was hard as shit man! i was a big fan of his pal preacher earl too who had the “return of the body snatcha” 12″ out that was classic and is still one of my most prized 12″s

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      Yeedo

      Preacher Earl! The first record I ever produced (that was released) was a Preacher Earl record called “Fool I Got Your Back” in 1995. Earl was as real as they come and a real cool cat. I like the joint he and Tim did together, “Grab Your Gat”. “Body Snatcha” was hard too.

    • http://chasemarch.blogspot.com Chase March

      I actually have this album on CD. How about that?

      I’m not sure but this record might have actually started the East Coast – West Coast Rivalry. I don’t remember anyone else dissing the West before this record.

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      Chase, I think it was the first punch thrown. I know that King Sun and Mob Style both took shots at the West and Rodney O & Joe Cooley and Tweedy Bird Loc went at New York long before all the Bad Boy / Death Row shit, but this came first.

      I remember Tim Dog bein on Yo MTV Raps and taking some of his anti-West Coast statements back. He gave props to Ice Cube, Ice-T and WC and the MAAD Circle. After that, it was more specific as to who he was dissin.

      Hold on to the CD. I haven’t seen one in a used CD shop in maybe 15 years.

    • http://coldrockdaspot.blogspot.com Jaz

      Oh man Zone, you had me rolling with mad laughter with a lot of this…haha classic post, Tim Dog definitely has his place in Hip Hop…that album would not have been as dope without the raw NYC beats from some of the Ultramags though.

    • http://twitter.com/DJMichaelTimex Dj Michael Timex

      On point bruh. This definitely inspired me to follow up on my BustDown write up and finish my Disco Rick and the Dogs piece too. Tim Dog was the secret weapon of all battle dj’s for diss routines. Tim Dog was that nigga…..if Mr. Sandman from mike Tyson’s Punch-Out had on shades and could rap he’d be Tim Dog.

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      No you didn’t say Mr. Sandman. Hahahahaha. He could also be Tyson. Bustdown was raw when it came to dissin and bitch-baiting. A good MC too.

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      And agreed Jaz. Ultra was only topped by Bomb Squad when it came to wall of sound beat shit. The album structure was up there with all of the greats of the time too.

    • abeewon

      Always loved Fuck Compton im always surprised nobody points out its nearly identical to his verse on “a Chorus LIne”.

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      True, plus the beats were near identical. His rhymes on the Chorus Line were dope.

    • oskamadison

      Chorus Line was my shit, a lot of it initially because of Tim Dog. I still have POW on cassette to this day (funny, I don’t remember buying it. I just ended up with it.) Your post had me cryin’ and snottin’ laughin’, much like the album. Imagine if it dropped now…

    • http://dizelgorivo.blogspot.com 11211

      you gotta do a piece on the Ultra venture, foreal

    • cenzi

      Tim Dog has the flow of Sir Mix a Lot, the lyrical intelligence of a drunken Bushwick Bill and the gritty hardcore of Freddy Foxx on steroids.

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      Cenzi… wow. Hahaha

    • kessler

      dope article….nice word order!!!…when one quotes Tim Dog in twitter-friendly sound bites it puts my mind to Larry David’s boy Krazee-Eyes Killah…straight to the point pointlessness…which is flava…do i need someone to tell me how to live? well, possibly..but thats not the point…comedic rap is always nicer than didactic, moralistic doodoo…thanks for the music btw!!! PEACE

    • LOAF

      there’s a japanese version where they took out the NWA piano from the intro. it’s weird

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      You know why right? NWA sued him for sampling that beat off 100 MIles & Runnin EP. I remember reading that in The Source around the time the album came out.

    • Spoons

      Really? NWA sued him? Hypocritical mongrels. And when the bit he ripped on was a bit NWA ripped off from Ice Cube’s Orio Cookie bit (not the piano loop, but the general skit) – they couldn’t take the irony of it all in good humour, could they?

      I’d guess NWA weren’t squeaky clean on all their sample clearances either.

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      Yup. From what I remember reading in The Source, the world’s most dangerous group got him for that. Not a dangerous move at all. And I know NWA got sued for a few samples themselves – on the 100 Miles & Runnin EP in particular.

    • Slim

      A lot of people dont realize that Tim Dog almost got beat down here in Cali for coming out with that song. Shout out to CMW

    • http://govillaingo.com J-Zone

      I heard 2Pac saved his life out there. I know for a fact that 2nd II None stepped to him on it.

    • pauly t

      god i miss this album! when my boy first played it i thought it was weird al type of joke. i love how he’s pointing to his head on the cover art; is he insinuating that he’s smart, or that his head hurts from trying to think too hard?

    • http://sekretytresurypsa.pl/ sekerty tresury psa

      How do you think who is better: Tim Dog of J Zone!?

      BTW good job

    • http://none Gen RC

      word , hahaha. Tim Dogging is great I dont care what anyone says! I will Tim Dog a dude with a hot girl, because its not me. hahaha

    • http://none Gen RC

      See I was backwards I got the cowards in compton single tape first from Luke, then I got the Tim Dog. You got me by a few years. They were all dope though. You cant front. That shit was hot.

    • nate

      as a tribute to the dog baby baby, i just had to do this one for you zone…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-69SdYqXnE&feature=plcp

    • kooch

      great write up, but i dont expect anything less from j-zone. most importantly, rip tim dog. but you compared tim to “entertainment rap” of today, i get that, but i dont fully agree. why i liked tim so much (sure he was funny as shit), but dude didnt give a fuck., he saw someshit around his life, got pissed, wrote it down, rapped about it. id put him in a catagory with a young ice cube, willie d, and even chuck d, before id compare him to wonka flonkas or whoevers rapping today, saying ignorant shit to get a rise out of people. tim did that shit. but i truly believe that tim felt that shit. something thats always lacked in rap. rip tim, and thanks for the great article, j.

    • GMOW10463

      i had that 4.99 cassette too blasting thru homemade 15s in my hooptie. whole lota memories. r.i.p. tim dog bx warrior supreme. RESPECT!

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